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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This is a great discussion and I’m glad it’s
something that we are talking about. Has the concept been mentioned
or thought through that whether the end user has a MAC or PC could be a smaller
function of the network? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I guess I’m asking how Server-based computing may fit into
this question or change it? For example, with Server-based computing
options like Citrix, VDI, etc… the servers (or virtual desktops) are
what matters and the ‘medium’ used to access the server is not the
top concern anymore. Citrix actually implemented a company policy
called “BYOPC” which simply means “Bring Your Own PC”.
They don’t mind which type of computer you use if you work there since
the Citrix client can run on both platforms which allows access to all applications.
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Our environment is a Citrix environment and our only limitation
to supporting MAC computers is ensuring we have in-house knowledge or
experience of how to support those MAC computers – but in a much more
limited capacity than if apps were installed locally that had to be maintained
or updated. So I wanted to ask… are any of you using a
Server-based computing model and if so, how does that impact (or not impact)
the Mac versus PC debate? You may still have to
standardize your applications for all users on something like a Microsoft
platform, but it may allow the end user to feel more freedom in choosing their
own workstation OS. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Thoughts? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org [mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Glenn Kelley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> IT Discussion Forum<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [itdiscuss] mac or PC?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Got cha - <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I know there are limits :-) <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>10 years ago - mac would have been a nightmare - but then
again so was Windows NT :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>HAve a great round table <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Jason Powell wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My boss, Kem Meyer, actually prompted me to tell my IT peers
about this blog post and get your input. Didn’t mean to stir up
such a discussion on IT Discuss … just wanted people to post on
Beeson’s blog because he was asking for public input. </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>However, it’s fun seeing all the comments on here
too. Anyone object to me passing them on (I’ll remove names)?</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For the record: NO, “we” did not take his mac
away. I don’t know the story but he stopped using a mac like 10yrs
ago<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
There are other bits of “helpful” info that are missing from his
blog post, but that’s the way it goes. And just to
clarify…I’ve got Beeson’s back 100%.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I disagree with some of the thoughts in some of the replies, but
that just makes life more interesting eh? ;-)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>IT and other support departments exist to support ministry
… period! However, that does NOT mean we say yes to whatever anyone
wants. Often even good intending people want something that will end up
being harmful to the organization as a whole. We have to say NO to a lot
of good things so we can say YES to the great things. Sometimes we say
yes to Macs, more often though we say no for many reasons.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Gotta jet … GCC IT Roundtable tomorrow then 2 Days of
Innovate. Busy week on top of all the<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><i>major</i><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>IT issues we’ve had last 2 days.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jason</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Jason</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Powell<br>
IT Director<br>
Granger Community Church<br>
</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>630 E. University Drive</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Granger, IN 46530<br>
574.243.3506, x305 •<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:jpowell@gccwired.com" target="_blank"
title="mailto:jpowell@gccwired.com">jpowell@gccwired.com</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>• GCCwired.com<br>
<a href="http://jpowell.blogs.com/" title="http://jpowell.blogs.com/">http://jpowell.blogs.com</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>- yup, I've got a blog</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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