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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I&#8217;m a little bit familiar with the Sonicwall interface
because I managed a 3Com SS3 Firewall for several years.&nbsp; 3Com just
rebranded the Sonicwall system.&nbsp; I like their interface better than I do
the Watchguard.&nbsp; I have also managed an Astaro firewall.&nbsp; It can be a
little difficult to work with until you get used to the interface.&nbsp; It
does seem to be very robust, though very expensive as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<BR><BR><DIV align=left><P><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: navy">Bill Lloyd</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><br/>
IT Manager</FONT></SPAN><BR><BR></P><IMG src="cid:d378ac13-c183-4e22-855c-7b7eb89e7e6f"><BR><P><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">2567 Athens Hwy.<BR>Gainesville, GA 30507<BR>Phone:&nbsp;770-417-1604<BR>Fax:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 770-417-1747<br/>
Cell: &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;404-379-6963</FONT></SPAN></P><P><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><EM>blloyd@buskercom.com</EM></SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This email and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential and proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to delete this entire communication immediately. Emails cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. The sender does not accept any liability or responsibility for any problems that may result from emails you receive.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org
[mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Brunson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'IT Discussion Forum'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [itdiscuss] Firewalls<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The watchguard product line tries to meet offices that size with
the edge series, which is web managed.&nbsp; But I am not a huge fan of the
edge series, since those firewalls need regular reboots or they start to
choke.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would think an X550e would do everything you want, though,
including PPTP or SSL VPN built-in.&nbsp; It can also handle VLANs, content
filter, Gateway AV/Spyware/Intrusion Protection, and spam filtering if you want
to go that route.&nbsp; Of course if you are trying to get away from watchguard,
this is probably not very helpful.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Let me also say that if you are used to watchguard
configurations, then going to a sonicwall with enhanced OS (needed to do VLANs
and such) would be a difficult transition.&nbsp; The two products use a VERY different
philosophy when it comes to management and configuration.&nbsp; You almost have
to unlearn some of what you did with the watchguard to do similar things with
the sonicwall and vice versa.&nbsp; Not a criticism, just a comment.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org
[mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>blloyd@buskercom.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> discuss@itdiscuss.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [itdiscuss] Firewalls<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You make a good point here.&nbsp; As to the questions, here are
my answers:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>About 25 office users for now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes and I would like to setup a PPTP server for VPN
access.&nbsp; The other possibility would be SSL VPNs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We don&#8217;t have any remote offices.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We have up to 3mbs.&nbsp; Our ISP is Cbeyond.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
have four VLANs that I want to make static routes for so I can share resources
to the Internet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
would like to consider some of the protection plug-ins that some firewalls
offer, depending on the expense.&nbsp; It would be one more component of a
layered security model that I want to develop.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:navy'>Bill
Lloyd</span></b><span style='color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:navy'><br>
IT Manager</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><img width=149 height=46 id="_x0000_i1026"
src="cid:image001.jpg@01C944B7.5659F610"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>2567 Athens Hwy.<br>
Gainesville, GA 30507<br>
Phone:&nbsp;770-417-1604<br>
Fax:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 770-417-1747<br>
Cell: &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;404-379-6963</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><em><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>blloyd@buskercom.com</span></em><o:p></o:p></p>

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discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org [mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Kevin Brunson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'IT Discussion Forum'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [itdiscuss] Firewalls<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think a lot of people miss out on the advantages of having
separate management software.&nbsp; With web-managed firewalls, you typically
make one change at a time, and then submit.&nbsp; That makes it easy to see the
effects of one change, but difficult if you need to make large-scale changes to
a firewall.&nbsp; For example, if you change ISPs and are issued&nbsp; a new IP
scheme.&nbsp; With a sonicwall, you wait until you know the new link is
working, and then you go through and change the LAN addresses.&nbsp; Then you
change the rules, routing tables, etc.&nbsp; It might take you an hour or more
of downtime to get everything configured, depending on the complexity of the
ruleset, and then you just hope that everything is working right.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>With a watchguard, you make a copy of your config file called
&#8220;newISP&#8221;, make all the changes, get it just the way you want it,
and when the ISP says its go time, you save the new config file over and swap
the cable.&nbsp; Done.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But I hate to get into a discussion of &#8220;what firewall
should I use&#8221; when I don&#8217;t know much about the size and complexity
of your network.&nbsp; All of this seems pretty fruitless until then.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;How many users?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Do any work from home?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Any remote offices that share server resources?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>How much bandwidth do you have?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Any other info that seems relevant?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org [mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>blloyd@buskercom.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> discuss@itdiscuss.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [itdiscuss] Firewalls<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I&#8217;m working to replace an old Watchguard that is no longer
supported.&nbsp; The main thing I don&#8217;t like about it is that you have to
load software on a PC to manage the configuration.&nbsp; I would much rather
just login to the device itself.&nbsp; Have they changed that at all?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:navy'>Bill
Lloyd</span></b><span style='color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:navy'><br>
IT Manager</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>2567 Athens Hwy.<br>
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Cell: &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;404-379-6963</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><em><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>blloyd@buskercom.com</span></em><o:p></o:p></p>

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discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org [mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Jeffrey Thompson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> IT Discussion Forum<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [itdiscuss] Firewalls<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Watchguard has done well for network firewall and web filter
for me.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 12, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Lee, Jason wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think I would disappoint those around CITRT (Mainly Justin
Moore) if I didn&#8217;t say Sonicwall&#8217;s lineup has been rock solid and
cost effective for us.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>- jason</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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