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Sophos was one of the few cross-platform products. It was also available cheaper for 6 years than even 1 year of Symantec.<BR>
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<HR ALIGN=CENTER SIZE="3" WIDTH="95%"><B>From: </B>Jeffrey Thompson <<a href="jeffrey@janoah.net">jeffrey@janoah.net</a>><BR>
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<B>Date: </B>Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:48:41 -0400<BR>
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<B>Subject: </B>Re: [itdiscuss] Anti-Virus choices<BR>
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I have found the AVG SMB Internet Security product to be excellent. The spam filter is also excellent. It also has an Outlook Plugin that makes it easy to maintain white/black lists for the user. I have had users who were more than twenty spams a day and this product knocked them out with no false-positives. Also the server pricing is very good as well. Another thing I like about the Internet Security package is it's more than spam and antivirus protection but it also scans for RootKits as well. It also has centralized management. I haven't had a chance to check out the other Antivirus products mentioned here but I also plan on checking those out too to compare and contrast features versus cost. So far in my experience AVG has been the best level of protection and is fairly invisible (sometimes the user can feel a scan on their machine but most of the time they don't notice the scans going on).<BR>
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And in the Mac area, is anyone deploying Antivirus protection on Macs. I haven't done so because it just hasn't been a problem but what are others doing out there for Mac protection?<BR>
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On Sep 3, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Ron Beatty wrote:<BR>
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heard anyone else mention it since. I have used the home version of AVG<BR>
for years and have been very pleased with it. I have no experience with<BR>
the corporate version but would suspect it to be as good a product.<BR>
Anyone else used the corporate version before? On our front we are<BR>
currently using Symantec but are looking at McAfee for future use. <BR>
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Ron Beatty<BR>
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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:04:43 -0500<BR>
From: Dan Barber <<a href="dbarber@kirkofthehills.org">dbarber@kirkofthehills.org</a>><BR>
Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] antivirus<BR>
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How do you guys move machines from one policy to another? I can't seem<BR>
to manage to do that...<BR>
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Dan<BR>
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[<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org">mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org</a>] On Behalf Of Roger Wright<BR>
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Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] antivirus<BR>
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I think VIPRE is terrific! In my new position we're using MS Forefront.<BR>
Too much is still slipping through, it's cumbersome to manage and to<BR>
pull meaningful reports. VIPRE is much from admin-friendly and has I<BR>
saw no infections on either the church or workplace network - can't say<BR>
that about Forefront. You can ask for and probably get home use<BR>
licenses as well. $10/seat - no brainer.<BR>
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<BR>
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Roger Wright<BR>
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[<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org">mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org</a>] On Behalf Of Dan Barber<BR>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:48 AM<BR>
To: 'IT Discussion Forum'<BR>
Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] antivirus<BR>
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Roger,<BR>
Are you still happy with VIPRE? Are the any others using VIPRE<BR>
currently? We have McAfee and are potentially looking at switch this<BR>
month.<BR>
<BR>
Dan Barber<BR>
Network Administrator<BR>
Kirk of the Hills<BR>
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From: <a href="discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org">discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org</a><BR>
[<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org">mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org</a>] On Behalf Of Roger Wright<BR>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:11 PM<BR>
To: 'IT Discussion Forum'<BR>
Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] antivirus<BR>
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If you contact Matt Biden at TLIC (www.everythingmaintenance.com) he can<BR>
probably get you set up for close to that price range. I just switched<BR>
from McAfee to VIPRE a month ago on my 185-node work network. And my<BR>
church received comparable pricing direct from Sunbelt last fall. If<BR>
you ask real nicely you may even get licenses for your users to install<BR>
on their home machines. Contact Bryan Berger<BR>
[<a href="BryanB@sunbelt-software.com">BryanB@sunbelt-software.com</a>] for more info.<BR>
<BR>
In any case, you can download the 30-day trial for VIPRE Enterprise from<BR>
Sunbelt Software's site and give it a try.<BR>
www.sunbeltsoftware.com/VPE<<a href="http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/VPE">http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/VPE</a>><BR>
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Roger Wright<BR>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:51 PM<BR>
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Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] antivirus<BR>
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Thank you. About 30 clients right now. We have a lot of Macs on our<BR>
network that are protected already so these are just Windows machines.<BR>
That's not a bad price.<BR>
<BR>
Darin<BR>
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Roger Wright<BR>
<<a href="rhw@tampabay.rr.com<mailto:rhw">rhw@tampabay.rr.com<mailto:rhw</a>@tampabay.rr.com>> wrote:<BR>
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How many clients? You can get Sunbelt Software's VIPRE system for<BR>
about $8.50/user right now. It provides excellent protection, is light<BR>
on resource requirements, and very easy to manage & deploy.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Roger Wright<BR>
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Subject: [itdiscuss] antivirus<BR>
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Hey all,<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Any suggestions for good free AV software? We are thinking about doing<BR>
away with our active directory server and our domain, and we currently<BR>
have AVG with a client/server installation.<BR>
<BR>
Darin<BR>
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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:06:45 -0500<BR>
From: Dan Barber <<a href="dbarber@kirkofthehills.org">dbarber@kirkofthehills.org</a>><BR>
Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] antivirus<BR>
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Nevermind...Just found the command :)<BR>
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How would I go about getting a home license as well? A couple of you<BR>
have mentioned that...<BR>
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Dan<BR>
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From: <a href="discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org">discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org</a><BR>
[<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org">mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org</a>] On Behalf Of Roger Wright<BR>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:14 PM<BR>
To: 'IT Discussion Forum'<BR>
Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] antivirus<BR>
<BR>
I think VIPRE is terrific! In my new position we're using MS Forefront.<BR>
Too much is still slipping through, it's cumbersome to manage and to<BR>
pull meaningful reports. VIPRE is much from admin-friendly and has I<BR>
saw no infections on either the church or workplace network - can't say<BR>
that about Forefront. You can ask for and probably get home use<BR>
licenses as well. $10/seat - no brainer.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Roger Wright<BR>
<BR>
[cid:<a href="image001.jpg@01CA2C6D.7ABAA470]<http://www.rrtshelp.com/>">image001.jpg@01CA2C6D.7ABAA470]<http://www.rrtshelp.com/></a><BR>
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From: <a href="discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org">discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org</a><BR>
[<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org">mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org</a>] On Behalf Of Dan Barber<BR>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:48 AM<BR>
To: 'IT Discussion Forum'<BR>
Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] antivirus<BR>
<BR>
Roger,<BR>
Are you still happy with VIPRE? Are the any others using VIPRE<BR>
currently? We have McAfee and are potentially looking at switch this<BR>
month.<BR>
<BR>
Dan Barber<BR>
Network Administrator<BR>
Kirk of the Hills<BR>
<BR>
From: <a href="discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org">discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org</a><BR>
[<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org">mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org</a>] On Behalf Of Roger Wright<BR>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:11 PM<BR>
To: 'IT Discussion Forum'<BR>
Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] antivirus<BR>
<BR>
If you contact Matt Biden at TLIC (www.everythingmaintenance.com) he can<BR>
probably get you set up for close to that price range. I just switched<BR>
from McAfee to VIPRE a month ago on my 185-node work network. And my<BR>
church received comparable pricing direct from Sunbelt last fall. If<BR>
you ask real nicely you may even get licenses for your users to install<BR>
on their home machines. Contact Bryan Berger<BR>
[<a href="BryanB@sunbelt-software.com">BryanB@sunbelt-software.com</a>] for more info.<BR>
<BR>
In any case, you can download the 30-day trial for VIPRE Enterprise from<BR>
Sunbelt Software's site and give it a try.<BR>
www.sunbeltsoftware.com/VPE<<a href="http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/VPE">http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/VPE</a>><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Roger Wright<BR>
<BR>
[cid:<a href="image001.jpg@01CA2C6D.7ABAA470]<http://www.rrtshelp.com/>">image001.jpg@01CA2C6D.7ABAA470]<http://www.rrtshelp.com/></a><BR>
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From: <a href="discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org">discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org</a><BR>
[<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org">mailto:discuss-bounces@itdiscuss.org</a>] On Behalf Of Darin Rohatinsky<BR>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:51 PM<BR>
To: IT Discussion Forum<BR>
Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] antivirus<BR>
<BR>
Thank you. About 30 clients right now. We have a lot of Macs on our<BR>
network that are protected already so these are just Windows machines.<BR>
That's not a bad price.<BR>
<BR>
Darin<BR>
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Roger Wright<BR>
<<a href="rhw@tampabay.rr.com<mailto:rhw">rhw@tampabay.rr.com<mailto:rhw</a>@tampabay.rr.com>> wrote:<BR>
<BR>
How many clients? You can get Sunbelt Software's VIPRE system for<BR>
about $8.50/user right now. It provides excellent protection, is light<BR>
on resource requirements, and very easy to manage & deploy.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Roger Wright<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Error! Filename not specified.<<a href="http://www.rrtshelp.com/">http://www.rrtshelp.com/</a>><BR>
<BR>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:01 PM<BR>
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Subject: [itdiscuss] antivirus<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Hey all,<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Any suggestions for good free AV software? We are thinking about doing<BR>
away with our active directory server and our domain, and we currently<BR>
have AVG with a client/server installation.<BR>
<BR>
Darin<BR>
<BR>
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